4:13 Podcast: Can I Savor the Peace of Jesus in a Chaotic World? With Melissa Spoelstra [Episode 322]

Melissa Spoelstra: Just to have that permission from Jesus to say you're not lacking faith or lacking peace because you're grieving. That you can hold on to both at the same time and ultimately lift them both up. And that he's so tender, he's so compassionate. He tells us not to be troubled or afraid; but he himself was troubled, so he knows exactly what it feels like. And he wants us just to hold on to that truth, that he is the reason we don't have to stay in it. That trouble doesn't get the final word in whatever circumstance we're going through is that he is the resurrection and the life and that we can take heart because he has overcome the world. And so we feel our feelings, but at the same time lean into hope.

Jennifer Rothschild: Life, it seems to move so fast. Days are just full of noise and screens and appointments. The chaos, it can leave us looking for a place to be still, but that place always seems to be just out of reach. But Jesus offers a different kind of life. He offers peace because he is peace. So today's guest, author and Bible teacher, Melissa Spoelstra, is going to encourage you to slow down and linger with the Living Word. You are going to learn how to imitate the pace of the Savior, who never hurried but never failed to do everything that God called him to do.

So quiet your heart and prepare for some peace to flood your soul. Here we go, K.C.

K.C. Wright: Welcome to the 4:13 Podcast, where practical encouragement and biblical wisdom set you up to live the "I Can" life, because you can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.

Now, welcome your host, Jennifer Rothschild.

Jennifer Rothschild: Well, hey, our people. We are so glad you are here. Can you believe it is November?

K.C. Wright: No, I can't.

Jennifer Rothschild: I know. Me neither. But as usual, K.C. and I show up every week in the closet, because our goal is to help you be and do more than you even feel capable of because you're living this "I Can" life of Philippians 4:13. It is Christ in you who gives you the power to be and to do everything.

K.C. Wright: Come on.

Jennifer Rothschild: Not just some things. Everything that he's called you to be and do. So I'm so glad we get to live this 4:13 life together. And we always say it's two friends, one topic, and zero stress. I don't feel stress, I feel -- what do I say? -- awareness.

K.C. Wright: Yeah.

Jennifer Rothschild: Okay, because this is a big event for me this weekend. I'm in my hometown, Springfield, Missouri, and we are having a Fresh Grounded Faith conference. But guess who's here, K.C.? Well, you know, but just act like you don't. Point of Grace.

K.C. Wright: What?

Jennifer Rothschild: Right. Good job. I love the Points. I tell them they need four Points. Any good sermon needs four points. I want to be the fourth Point of the Point of Grace. But guess who else is with us? Whitney Capps. She is such an incredible Bible teacher. So if you're even close, you still got time. Pop on over to Second Baptist Church in Springfield, Missouri, for this Kingdom-minded event.

But if you're in the Atlanta area, I will be in Atlanta area on November 8th, so check that out. Or if you are in Bloomington, Illinois, I'm going to be there for a Fresh Grounded Faith in just a couple of weeks on November 15 and 16. So you got some options, people. You have got some options. I would love to hug your neck.

And everybody always asks K.C. They'll ask my husband, Phil, "Are you K.C.?" And I'm like, "No. This man is my main man, my main guy. K.C.'s my Seeing Eye Guy, and we have to keep him in the closet." Sorry. I'm just kidding. I wish you could go on the road with me. But women at my events always want to meet K.C. And did I tell you this? I can't remember if I told you. One lady said to me, "I'm single. What kind of women does K.C. like?" I was like, "Oh, my gosh."

K.C. Wright: That's awesome. Hey, I've got luggage. I am willing to travel anywhere. But I do attend the Fresh Grounded Faith in Springfield.

Jennifer Rothschild: Yeah, you'll be at this one.

K.C. Wright: Yeah, I'll be at this one. I'll have my own little table.

Jennifer Rothschild: Yes, you will.

K.C. Wright: And I love meeting you and hearing your stories. My mind is always blown away with the power of the podcast.

Jennifer Rothschild: I know. Isn't it cool?

K.C. Wright: I remember last year a lady telling me -- she's a teacher in Oklahoma -- she listens every single week on her way into class. And, you know, so many stories of how the podcast is helping people. One heart at a time, and that's why we do this.

Jennifer Rothschild: One heart at a time.

K.C. Wright: Yeah.

Jennifer Rothschild: Well, I remember -- this past summer, K.C., you know, we had that Summer Sizzle. And so I -- you know, it's been a while since I had heard those episodes, so I listened to them. I don't know if you remember this, but one of them you were talking about how a friend of yours just had a puppy that they named Philippians because of the podcast. And I was like, I forgot. We have influence even in our little canine friends. Anyway...

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And speaking of messages, today's is super applicable to where we live. Because if you got any chaos in your personal world, this is going to apply. And if you happen to have a peaceful world, this still applies because you live in a chaotic one.

K.C. Wright: Yes.

Jennifer Rothschild: Right? Just turn on the news. So I love this lady. Melissa Spoelstra is going to talk about what it looks like to have peace, real peace, like, the kind of peace Jesus gives in a chaotic world.

So, K.C., some of our friends may not know Melissa, so introduce her and let's get this going.

K.C. Wright: Melissa Spoelstra is a women's conference speaker, Bible teacher, and author who is madly in love with Jesus and passionate about studying God's Word and helping women of all ages to seek Christ and know him more intimately through serious Bible studies. Melissa has a degree in Bible theology and is the author of more than a dozen Bible studies and books. She's a regular contributor to the Proverbs 31 First 5 app. Melissa lives in Waxahachie --

Jennifer Rothschild: Waxahachie. Waxahachie? We don't know. But it's in Texas.

K.C. Wright: Hey, if you get down today, just say "Waxahachie" --

Jennifer Rothschild: Waxahachie.

K.C. Wright: -- five times, and I guarantee you, you'll be laughing.

Jennifer Rothschild: Waxa -- I think it's Waxaha -- okay. Anyway, keep introducing her.

K.C. Wright: I'd like to buy a vowel. Okay. Anyway, she lives in Texas --

Jennifer Rothschild: Yes, she does.

K.C. Wright: -- and the stars are bright there -- with her pastor husband, Sean. And they have four grown children, Zach, Abby, Sara, and Rachel.

Jennifer Rothschild: Melissa, I love that we are going to talk a little bit about peace today. Because we look, oh my goodness, at the world situation and it's like, really? Is peace -- like, does it even exist anymore? So clearly, as Christ followers, we know that peace is not just the absence of conflict, obviously. But I want us to be gut honest and, you know, super practical here. So what exactly is the peace of Christ, and how can we experience it?

Melissa Spoelstra: Yeah. That's such a great question. And that was actually the question I was asking as I was approaching John's Gospel. And so for me, I'm always going to go back to what is that Greek word, you know, what is that original word? Because Jesus used the word "peace" all the time in John's Gospel. The first thing he said when he came back in his resurrection body was, "Peace be to you." He said in John 14:27, "I'm leaving you with a gift," peace of mind, peace of heart, a peace the world cannot give, "so don't be troubled or afraid." And I think about that last command at the end of John 14:27, and I'm like, okay, but Lord, how do I do that?

Jennifer Rothschild: Right.

Melissa Spoelstra: How do I not be troubled or afraid when one of my adult kids is off the rails or when finances are tight or health crisis come, you know, just all those things. And the Lord just, you know, in his wonderful grace gave me so many opportunities to put this question to the test over the course of writing the study with just some personal things going on.

But to answer your question about how do we hold on to this peace, when I look at that Greek word, it's the word "Irene." Anybody named Irene, your name means --

Jennifer Rothschild: Oh, how fun.

Melissa Spoelstra: -- your name means peace. But the definition of it is "a tranquil state of the soul." And what really struck me about that is I'm looking for peace as the tranquil state of the circumstances. And that's not what -- that's not the gift Jesus said he was leaving. In fact, in John 16:33, he says, "In this world, you will have trouble." Right? But we can take heart because he's overcome the world. So he's saying you're going to have trouble out there, but we don't have to have trouble in our hearts.

So I'm one of those people who likes, okay, well, what are the steps? Where's the checklist? You know, how do I receive this gift of peace that Jesus promised? And as I just dug through John's Gospel and so many precious words of Jesus, you know, the seven I Am statements, the seven signs, what I found is that peace is not a practice. It's not a procedure. Peace is a person. And so the simple answer is, if we want more peace, it means we want more Jesus. So we just have to say, okay, how do I get closer to Jesus, because that's what will bring me closer to peace, that tranquil state of the soul that I'm yearning and longing for.

Jennifer Rothschild: Ooh. Melissa, this is so good because -- okay. Well, number one, you just spoke to all the Type A's out there who are getting their pens ready --

Melissa Spoelstra: Right?

Jennifer Rothschild: -- to write down the list.

Melissa Spoelstra: I'm so with them. I'm so with them on that topic.

Jennifer Rothschild: I know. Well, and it's good. Because if peace were a program or a formula, then we would use that as a substitute for a relationship. So I'm loving that you described that it is a person, and it's Jesus, and it's getting to know him.

And I think one of the things that happens in your Bible study on the Book of John is you give us that opportunity, because it is all about Jesus. So I want us to just kind of go there for a second, because John is not like the other gospels, because -- the other gospels are what we call the synoptic gospels. So I want you to start there. Since you like the Greek, I know you like to geek, so...

Melissa Spoelstra: Oh, that's so good. I like to geek and I do like the Greek. That's so true.

Jennifer Rothschild: Exactly. So tell us what the synoptics are and how John is different.

Melissa Spoelstra: Sure. So John is about 90% unique content from the three synoptics: Matthew, Mark, and Luke. Excellent gospels. So much great content. Lots of overlap with those three. They were written fairly early after Jesus' death and resurrection. John is one of the last books of the New Testament. I don't think I realized that. In his old age -- scholars say in his 80s, maybe even his 90s -- he penned this reflection back on his time with Jesus.

And I think what's fascinating to me about that is we know John had a brother named James. The Sons of Thunder, right? And James was martyred fairly early. But at the time of John's Gospel writing, Peter is dead and been martyred. Paul is dead. And John doesn't feel moved by the Spirit to record how the church grew or where the church went; he focuses back on that peaceful person of Jesus. He has all these editorial comments in there. And while those synoptic gospels focus a lot on the public ministry of Jesus, which is so wonderful, John chose to focus more on the private ministry of Jesus, kind of those more informal teachings.

It's interesting to look at what he omitted. He didn't talk about the Sermon on the Mount in John, he didn't have the Transfiguration, these kind of public moments. Instead, a bulk of the gospel is what's called the Farewell Discourse, where Jesus and his disciples are leaving the Last Supper and walking along the way to Gethsemane and Jesus is just trying to share as much as he can with them about the Holy Spirit, about peace, about all of these things, kind of those more informal teachings.

And one other thing about John that I'll say is different than the synoptics is we really get a clearer picture of Jesus' earthly ministry because we see his pace. And the reason we see his pace is we -- John sets him at all these festivals. He's at tabernacles. He's at all three Passovers in the Book of John. The other synoptics will put Jesus at that final Passover meal before his death, but only John sets him at all three. And what strikes me about that is you never see Jesus hurrying and scurrying. I got to get this thing done, you know, I got to make sure I accomplish all of this. We see him savoring his time with the Father, going off by himself, sitting at these festivals, celebrating. And he's the fulfillment of all of the festivals. And he's so patient. And I just -- that was a real takeaway for me, to say the pace of Jesus in John's Gospel really speaks to me in this fast-paced culture that we live in.

Jennifer Rothschild: Well, that leads me to what I was going to ask you next, if anything surprised you. But before I even -- well, let me just phrase it this way. Two things. One, some are listening right now and they're like, oh, my goodness, I've never known any of this or thought about it. So first thing I want to ask you to do is to clarify, because there's a couple of Johns in the New Testament. Are we talking John the Baptist or --

Melissa Spoelstra: This is true.

Jennifer Rothschild: You know, who are we talking about? And then secondly, because the book is somewhat familiar, the Gospel of John, was there anything besides the pace of Jesus that surprised you as you were studying it? And what do you think might surprise us as we study it?

Melissa Spoelstra: Great questions. Okay, wait. What was the first --

Jennifer Rothschild: The first one was, who is this John? You mentioned he --

Melissa Spoelstra: Okay, who is this John. Yes, yes, yes.

Jennifer Rothschild: Yeah. He's the brother of James. But is he John the Baptist? Like, who is he?

Melissa Spoelstra: No. He is -- he never refers to himself as "John" in the gospel, but we know that he -- he refers to himself as the Beloved Disciple or the One Who Jesus Loves. That alone is surprising --

Jennifer Rothschild: Wow.

Melissa Spoelstra: -- and a takeaway to me to say he saw himself as loved by God, and that's how we should see ourselves as well.

But he starts off his gospel talking about John the Baptist, so I had to clarify that right away in the study to say John the Baptist is the cousin of Jesus. John is the disciple of Jesus, one of those first followers, one of the 12 disciples. Peter and John were kind of the two guys that were closest to him. They're the ones who come to the empty tomb and Jesus appears to them and all of that.

But he did write -- not just the Gospel of John. He also wrote three letters, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd John. And so those are short books, and they're letters, but you feel his same tone as he had in this gospel. But the gospel is not a letter to a church, it is his personal account of his reflections. And I love, Jennifer, how we see sometimes he'll say -- he'll tell something that Jesus taught and then he'll say, We didn't know it at the time, but now in hindsight we recognize he was talking about the cross or he was talking about this. So it has these really sweet little editorial comments from someone who's writing about something that happened a long time ago.

Jennifer Rothschild: Wow. And I love how relational that is. Thank you for clarifying that, Melissa. Because sometimes what we're familiar with, we can kind of just realize, wait a minute, do I really know all these details?

Melissa Spoelstra: Right.

Jennifer Rothschild: Now, you did mention something a minute ago too that I want to talk about, because you described how a lot of this dialog and action happens around these traditional Jewish festivals. And you mentioned a couple of them. So I want you to tell us a little bit more in detail about a couple of them maybe. And why does it matter? Why is it important in John's Gospel?

Melissa Spoelstra: Well, I think having the context and the background of the festivals was definitely new for me as I did a deeper dive. Because you're right, we're very familiar with John's Gospel. A lot of pastors preach out of it. It's so accessible. It's what we often recommend a new believer would read.

But doing a deeper dive, I'm especially thinking about the Festival of Tabernacles, where Jesus comes. And by doing some, like, history on that, that's where they're remembering how God brought the Jewish people through the wilderness, and so they would set up these tabernacles.

But what I didn't realize is that traditionally, during Jesus' day, they had a water procession every day of that seven-day festival, where all the people would follow the priest and he would go over to this pool and dip out a pitcher of water and then come back and pour it out in the temple. And they would all be following him. And on the last day of the festival, they would do that little water parade seven times.

And that is the context for when Jesus stands up on the -- it says at the climax of the festival, is what the text says, Jesus stood up and said, "If anyone's thirsty, he can come to me," and Living Water. He's saying that is fulfilled in me. I am that. And when he's talking about him being the Bread of Life, it's also a reference back to the manna that was the wilderness story.

And that's another thing that I didn't mention that's unique about John's Gospel. His audience is the Jewish people. What we know is that for the first ten years of Christianity, it was mainly most converts to Christianity were Jews. But then as the ministry of Paul began and he began traveling, what happened was the gospel found really fertile ground among the Gentiles. And so the church has grown up largely more Gentiles coming to know Christ.

And John gave his heart in Chapter 20. He says, "I'm writing that they may believe, and that by believing they would have life in his name." And he's writing largely to his fellow Jews, because I think he's just so devastated that they've missed the Messiah and he wants another opportunity to maybe say it in a different way that they might catch it. So he's speaking of making these connections between Jesus' words and their own festivals.

And so that just -- you know, I look at that. Jesus is --we can go, oh, we know what it's like to be thirsty. That's relatable for us. Jesus quenches our spiritual thirst. But to think they've just done a water parade seven times in a row and Jesus is trying to help them see that he is the very person that every festival points to.

Jennifer Rothschild: I mean, that is radical too. When you think about it, not only is it loving and clear, but that was radical. No wonder they wanted to crucify him, because that was such a radical claim. Basically, "I am God." Yeah.

Melissa Spoelstra: Such a radical claim. His own brothers were like, "Why don't you go to the festival and show yourself?" Like, were taunting him. And he didn't go. Remember? He snuck away later. That's the Festival of Tabernacles that that happened at.

Jennifer Rothschild: Interesting.

Melissa Spoelstra: We also see him at Hanukah, the Feast of Dedication in December. That's something that's not in the Old Testament, right? That happened during the intertestamental period. But Jesus still participated in these holy days to be respectful. And I think -- I was just overwhelmed at the patience of Jesus, you know, that he is God, and yet he's so patient with people, just progressively revealing as much of himself as he can that people can take in. And I think that's true for you and I, right? God, he's so patient with us, just revealing as much of himself as we're willing to open our eyes and see.

Jennifer Rothschild: And he is so kind in his mercy, knowing our ability and capacity to absorb, you know?

Melissa Spoelstra: Yes.

Jennifer Rothschild: And speaking of capacity. Okay, so I did read that while you were writing this, your dad was battling cancer and then he eventually passed away. And, gosh, Melissa, that's so hard, and I'm so sorry. So I'm curious -- because I've been in a similar situation when I was writing. How did that experience impact your writing, or how did the grief impact your writing? And even did it shape or change the impact of John's message on you personally?

Melissa Spoelstra: I would say yes. It was just -- it was a season where we had just moved across the country from Ohio to Texas, so making new friends, adjusting to a move. But we are nearer to my family, who are all in Texas and, yeah, my dad, six months into the move, right in the smack dab middle of writing the study, got diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. And he only lived for 29 days and then he died. And, you know, my mom's a widow now, so there's all that. And, you know, the siblings, and my own kids' grief. And just all in the middle of that. And I think what struck me about -- you know, God's so gracious that he had me in the pages of John, you know, studying peace.

But I go to the story of Lazarus, where Jesus doesn't come right away. And he eventually comes, and what he finds are his dear friends, Mary and Martha, grieving, and intense grief going on. And Jesus knows he's going to raise him from the dead so that he can reveal that he's the resurrection and the life, but in that moment he doesn't say, Oh, y'all, stop having all these feelings. You know what I mean? Like, he doesn't do that. He enters into their pain. And I think that just spoke so much to me as I was grieving, that Jesus enters into our pain. That's where we find the verse "Jesus wept," is in that story of Lazarus. It says that he was greatly troubled, that he was a little bit angry the text says. And as I pondered all that, I'm like, why are you angry? You know what you're going to do. But I do believe that life is a key theme in the Book of John, and that he wants abundant life for us. He wants -- and he's angry at death, you know. He's angry at what sin has done to us, and he came to restore it and make it right.

And so I read all of that, and what I found is that Jesus was troubled, and yet he is the person of peace. And that tells me that I can grieve and have peace. I can feel disappointment and have peace. And I think -- I just kind of grew up in this culture and generation where it was like feelings are rogue and ungodly and you need to train the will. And I still believe there's something to training the will.

Jennifer Rothschild: Well, sure, sure. But, yeah, I get you.

Melissa Spoelstra: But just to have that permission from Jesus to say you're not lacking faith or lacking peace because you're grieving, that you can hold on to both at the same time and ultimately lift them both up. And that he's so tender, he's so compassionate. He tells us not to be troubled or afraid. But he himself was troubled, so he knows exactly what it feels like. And he wants us just to hold on to that truth that he is the reason we don't have to stay in it. That trouble doesn't get the final word in whatever circumstance we're going through, is that he is the resurrection and the life, and that we can take heart because he has overcome the world. And so we feel our feelings, but at the same time lean into hope.

Jennifer Rothschild: Ooh, preach. Okay, that was so good. Amen. And all the sisters said, "Amen." Yes, I'm with you. Okay. So -- wow. Thank you, Melissa, for that.

And so as I think about this, and just the few themes that you have shared with us, obviously the root of them all is this peace that is in Christ, that is Christ. Okay. So I think of -- you mentioned his pace. You mentioned that peace is not a program. So here's a very practical question. How do we live with this kind of peace and the pace of Christ and still be productive and not just sit around and, you know, sing Kumbaya? Like, what does that look like in real life?

Melissa Spoelstra: Yeah, I would just -- for me, I have a little acronym because I -- it's not a checklist. But I have a little acronym that helps me from what I studied in John, and it's the word SLOW. Because I do think it starts with slowing down from this frenetic pace. And I don't mean just an overflowing calendar or to-do list, but this mind that just keeps moving and moving and fretting and worrying and being troubled and playing out the what-ifs and living in the if-onlys. But to slow down from all of that.

And the first one is to See. That's Jesus' invitation to his first followers. It's in John 1. "Come and see." He doesn't start exegeting Isaiah. He says, "Come and see." And so I think to say that what we -- we look like what we look at. And if that's true, if we look like what we look at and we want to be more like Jesus, we need to spend more time looking at Jesus. And maybe for me, a little less time looking at my phone or Netflix or, you know, whatever silly little thing is capturing too much of my time and attention. So to say that's the S in SLOW, is to See.

The next, the L, is to Listen. And that goes with the slowing down. And Jesus revealed himself as the Good Shepherd. And the only thing sheep are supposed to do is listen. They hear his voice and they follow him. And so to say where am I making space in my life for listening? What would that look like for me to do that? And sometimes for me, Jennifer, that's honestly just setting a two-minute timer on my phone to say I'm just going to be quiet after I've done my Bible study or read my Bible to just ask the Lord, Lord, is there something here that you want to press into my life? Is there something that the Holy Spirit needs to get out his holy highlighter and lift off? But if I never slow down and am strategic about listening, I might miss some of that. So seeing, listening.

The O is our favorite word, Obedience. But so many times Jesus talked about obedience. And my question is always -- and maybe you can answer this, Jennifer. Have you ever had a time where disobedience just brought you so much peace in your life?

Jennifer Rothschild: No way.

Melissa Spoelstra: Right?

Jennifer Rothschild: No way. No way, Jose.

Melissa Spoelstra: Right, right, no way, Jose. We want to lean into. And, I mean, not everything do we have to question. I don't have to go in a store tomorrow and say, Lord, should I steal today? Right? Some things God has laid out in His Word that we just know, but we, you know, need to press into that obedience.

And then the W is Worship. I think that worship is the biggest antidote to worry, to anxiety, to all of those peace robbers in our lives, is just to -- and worship is -- not just singing. I'm not just talking about listening to worship music, although that's a great way to worship. It's assigning worth to the things that are worthy and saying that if Jesus is worthy, I'm going to assign my time, I'm going to assign my thoughts, I'm going to assign my money, I'm going to, you know, spend my life on the One who is worthy.

So for me, that's a helpful acronym to say the way that we savor the peace of Jesus is we get slow and low and we see, we listen, we obey, and we worship. And that has been -- those practices have brought me closer to the person of Jesus, which has brought me closer to peace.

K.C. Wright: Hey, let me repeat the SLOW acrostic. First is See. We look like what we look at. Second, Listen. You heard Melissa say that sheep listen. We are sheep, and we need to hear his voice.

Jennifer Rothschild: Yeah, we do.

K.C. Wright: That's heaven's little joke, by the way. We're the sheep.

The third one is Obey. Put simply, do what he says. And then last is Worship.

Jennifer Rothschild: I just -- well, I love a good acrostic, by the way.

K.C. Wright: Yeah.

Jennifer Rothschild: But I love also how she said that worship is the biggest antidote to worry. That's so practical, you guys. And she defined worship as assigning worth to the things that are worthy. And obviously, God is worthy.

K.C. Wright: I like this gal.

Jennifer Rothschild: Mm-hmm.

K.C. Wright: You guys, this is really a good Bible study, as you can tell. And what is also really good is that we are giving one away. And it's not only the Bible study, but you get free access -- I always love free -- to Melissa's video teaching also. So simply go to Jennifer's Insta. It's @jennrothschild right there on Instagram. Or go to the Show Notes at 413podcast.com/322 to get connected. And you can also read a transcript there of this entire conversation.

I got to say, this was so rich with biblical truth, and you may need to read the transcript so you can review all the gold that we just heard in our ears.

Jennifer Rothschild: Amen. You know what? Her Bible study would really be good for a group study, like in your neighborhood or in your church. Or how about online? Like, if you and your people live far away, what a great way to stay connected. So go to the Show Notes, like K.C. said, to get Melissa's Bible study and to get started with this.

K.C. Wright: You can savor the peace of Jesus, no matter how crazy the world is, because you can do all things through Christ who gives you strength. I can.

Jennifer Rothschild: I can.

Jennifer and K.C.: And you can.

Jennifer Rothschild: All right. Now off to Fresh Grounded Faith, K.C.

K.C. Wright: Let's go.

Jennifer Rothschild: Let's go, baby.

K.C. Wright: Woo.

Jennifer Rothschild: Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.